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William Rongholt und Kevin Evans diskutieren in der Episode 23 vom Podcast “Between Two Beans” über meine Arbeit, meine Alexa Skills und unsere gemeinsamen Erwartungen an die Alexa Live 2022:
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“But we do have a meaningful conversation, meaning we are going to highlight Frank Born.
So I don’t know exactly, but I thought it was Born-icky.
Born-icky?
Born-icky?
Born-icky?
I can’t.
It’s German.
That’s all I know.
So I’m sorry, Frank, if you are watching this and we totally didn’t say your last name right.
But I got Frank right.
So.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So maybe we’ll have him on someday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
Yeah.
So I actually, last week we had been talking about Alexa Live, right?
And we kind of gave our thoughts and our want lists and, you know, our wish lists, I guess
I should say, what we hope to see, what we’ve seen in the past, those types of things, right?
And so I was looking for other people, other developers, what their wish lists were as well.
And so I dug through the Alexa Dev Slack channel that we had referenced last week.
And as luck would have it, Frank posted his blog about this.
So we’re going to run through this real quick.
So Frank, we really appreciate this, but it’s titled Waiting for Alexa Live 2022.
And it was actually published today.
So he had one last week as well, or I mean, last year as well, which I didn’t look at,
but it’d be interesting to see if he got his wish, you know.
I’m guessing.
But yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We’ll see.
But so he says here, for most of the developers, APL widgets turned out to be the number one
feature that they wanted to see.
So APL widgets.
Okay.
We’ll keep that in the back of our mind there.
Everyone in the forums and the channels and everything, like just comments basically,
have said what they would like to do with APL widgets.
You know, there’s so many different use cases.
I think we’ve talked about a few as well that they really want to run through and it would
be nice.
And I think it’s just a natural progression to see APL widgets develop.
So I think we’ll see some of that.
So let’s jump down.
I’m going to jump down about halfway here to his bullet points.
I did want to, we’re going to cover this in a little bit, but he does have my dashboard
where he created APL widgets himself.
So it acts like APL widgets, but it’s actual skill.
So we’ll cover that in a little bit, like I said.
Sounds good.
So right at the top, the first thing that he mentions, Will, is make all of those beta
and preview features from Alexa Live 2021 publicly available for everybody.
Yep.
Yep.
We said the same exact thing.
Yep.
I mean, we said that we got on those wait lists, we were jumping into betas, we filled
out every checkbox that we could, and we’re in the same boat, you know, we were waiting
to.
Again, Frank is from Germany.
So I completely understand this one here, his second point of instead of new features,
make all those US only features available for other non US locales.
In the past year, I’ve seen some improvement on that, but I agree 100%.
You know, we are US based, but you really need to push worldwide at this point.
At least in the next, you know, few, like top five areas, I wouldn’t say worldwide,
because that would be just, I don’t even want to think of that.
Unrealistic.
Yeah, yeah.
I know for a fact that they have the data of where their users are.
You know, India is huge, I know that, and the UK has a good presence as well.
Really start to use that data, put your resources into, like you said, those top five, you know,
and push development for those features.
For sure.
I’m sure there’s laws and regulations and pieces and parts that we don’t think of or
know about.
But yeah, I agree with you here 100%, Frank.
Faster build times for Alexa conversations.
What do you think about that one, Will?
Okay, I really don’t care.
Okay, that works.
That works.
Yeah, I’d like to see improvements for sure.
I’m all for it.
I can’t say that I’ve utilized it too much, because maybe it just needs to be better in
general as well.
This one I wasn’t sure about, and maybe you can enlighten me a little bit, Will.
Open Alexa Web API for games to non-game related domains.
What does this mean exactly?
So Web API is mainly what he is getting at here.
So that is like creating a website or a web page instead of using APL, but it’s not actually
a web page because it does sit on some server somewhere.
But you only access it through Alexa.
So from games to non-game related domains.
Okay.
The game ones are usually like the 3D, it can be 2D or 3D, but a lot of people make
the 3D games available on Alexa utilizing this.
Okay, okay.
I think I’m following now that you’re explaining, so that makes more sense to me now.
And there’s tons and tons of different ones.
I’m just blanking on it right now.
But yeah, no worries.
While you think of that, introduce APL support.
Yeah, sure.
So introduce APL support for the Alexa app.
Yeah, I’ve been wanting this too.
Absolutely.
That’s been a wishlist item.
And then related to this, for the Alexa app, improve performance, remove all the lags.
I can’t say that I’ve noticed too many issues with my Alexa app.
I’m running an S22 Ultra currently, which is an Android device.
I’m not sure where the lags are, if it’s more of the voice requests, those types of things,
if that’s where the lag comes from.
Maybe from like, I can’t say that I’ve used my phone to say the A word to turn on my lights.
I think it’s always been just my smart speakers or my Echo devices, things like that.
So I don’t know if that’s where he’s referencing the lag.
And if screen switching doesn’t seem to be too much of an issue for me.
I would say when I’m searching for a skill in the Alexa app, there’s been times where
if I swipe back or hit the back arrow or whatever, it pops me to the top of the list.
And then I got to scroll again, dynamically loading to my next piece, where I was before.
That stuff I don’t like.
Have you noticed any lag in the Alexa app?
No.
I can’t say I have either.
The only time there’s ever lag, I guess for me, is when adding a new light bulb.
Okay.
Yeah.
I know.
Which is normal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it can always be improved.
So Frank, let us know what you’re talking about here.
I would love to know more.
So this bullet point, unless you had what you wanted to talk about, Will.
No.
That’s all I have.
Perfect.
I’m going to jump ahead here.
Imagine a generic RSS reader skill where the user could enter the RSS feed URL of your
choice via the Alexa app.
Therefore, it would be great if the user could customize the skill in the Alexa app with
some strings, like RSS URL, pin code, some friendly username.
Okay.
I see what he’s saying.
I would love-
What do you do?
Yeah.
So I’ve used RSS feeds in the past for news curation, things like that.
When I was big in the medical world, we always had to upkeep our continuing education units,
CEUs.
So I would always have a running list that would just automatically update of news articles
or like med pub articles that were behind like a paywall even, but I could have them
just aggregated in one spot, open up my RSS feed and see the latest research, the latest
updates on things, what kind of healthcare administration changes were being talked about
elsewhere that we could kind of incorporate in our environment.
So I would like something like that.
I don’t think it would be too bad.
Doesn’t also like Google do that also or your Android phone?
Yes.
Yeah.
It does.
So what Frank’s saying is that you’d be able to pull it into the Alexa app.
So you’d almost have like the Alexa app take over the Google part of it is what I think
about some of that.
Right.
That actually would be neat.
It would make it kind of a one-stop shop in a way.
Instead of seeing all this other stuff that I don’t have any interest in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I’m just going to pick it up a little bit here, but there’d be some add some feature
in the developer console to maintain key value pairs, which we could then access from our
code from like an ENV file.
These settings should not appear in Git.
I see what he’s saying a little bit there.
Oh, I know what he’s talking about.
You can do this in the developer console in, I guess, in the in like VS code or whatever.
The no, no, no, no.
Yes, you can do it there.
Yeah.
So the, why can’t I think of it today?
The developer console builder, the skill builder.
Okay.
You could, you have an ENV file that you can put it in there.
I know that your Git shouldn’t, should already have, do not publish the ENV file.
So I don’t know.
Like a built-in ignore type of thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
More and better poly voices, at least for Germany, I’m all for that, you know, dynamic
expressions and language models.
I didn’t look at that link, but he has a link here that probably explains it a lot
better than I can.
Web developer console.
He has two bullet points for it.
The first is for hosted skill development, enrich the editor with at least a pretty print
format.
Yes.
Yep.
Yeah.
He wanted to talk about that one.
That would be glorious, you know, to be able to implement something like that would be
just wonderful.
Definitely, definitely up there on my list as well.
Please support complete removal of a deleted skill from the Alexa skills list.
I don’t think I have an issue with that one.
Oh, support complete removal of a deleted skill from the Alexa.
Is this for the web developer console?
I’m not sure.
Is this like one of those?
I don’t use a skill anymore.
And so it’s just inactive.
And then I just reactivate it.
Is that what that means?
Web developer console.
I go into the console and I can delete a skill.
I mean, I’m not sure what this means.
I’ve had a couple of test ones that I’ve played around with and then removed.
I’m not sure.
Excuse me.
Allow clickable URLs in cars.
Yes, that would be nice.
Styling, of course.
Yes, I’ll take that for sure.
Support longer responses for Amazon search query.
Currently, the max is about 110.
I don’t know what the long.
I don’t know what it is either.
I don’t either.
I don’t actually use search query, but.
Yeah, I can see why he he requested longer responses,
right?
Yeah, I don’t know that off the top of my head.
I know I’ve come across it in the documentation in the past, but I didn’t
need it, so I didn’t really jump into it.
Remove the carrier phrase requirement.
Remove the limitation for maximum of five audio elements in SMM.
OK.
Yeah, I suppose I would agree with that.
Remove the limitation for maximum of five audio elements in an SSML.
I can’t say I’ve ever hit that limit, but now it’s not playing all at once.
That so the audio elements would be things I think correct me if I’m wrong,
but like you can set how loud you want it to be like so the volume part.
So if I had footsteps, right, I’d have the the sound element itself.
How loud those foot or soft those footsteps would be?
How long like a duration?
Would there be like a fade in a fade out?
Would there be like a fade in a fade out?
Yeah, peace.
I can’t that’s why I’m saying I can’t say I’ve hit that maximum of five pieces for that.
Yeah, I’m not sure what it really is talking about here.
Yeah, I’m not sure.
I’ve done a little bit with SSML, but I just don’t know.
I can’t say I’ve hit that limit.
Yeah, I might have to dig into that one.
Allow to adjust device volume from within skills.
Yes.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There are times you open a skill and it’s like, bam.
And then, you know, other parts of it are just kind of quiet or whatever.
Fonts or custom fonts for APL.
Yes, I’ll agree with that 100%.
I’m all about customization.
You know, if I could upload my, my font that I pulled from, you know, Google fonts or whatever, and throw that up there.
How about an APL element type of HTML capable rendering and display at least a subset of HTML or CSS loaded from some URL.
So, then there’s an example where he has those pairs.
So, I’m guessing this is just kind of a basic rendering and display.
So, almost like a little piece.
Oh, and it will display this website.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
50 height 50 I see what you’re saying there.
Yeah, sure.
APL functionality to evaluate a JSON file by an expression at runtime.
To receive and evaluate a JSON file via an expression at runtime.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, his list just keeps going and going his wish list right and they’re, they’re well thought out for sure.
So, a lot of them relate to other ones that he’s mentioned before, but I want to hit a couple highlights that I that I marked down.
So, okay.
The allow longer text for skill descriptions in the skill store.
I’ll agree with it.
I haven’t really had an issue with that one.
I tend to just maybe I think in Twitter characters or whatever, you know, short and sweet.
But, yeah, I mean, I, if you have a complex skill that you really want to explain well, sure, I get that.
Yeah.
Here’s one that I like.
Allow developers to respond to reviews for their Alexa skills.
100%.
All day.
Also brought up in today’s, what is it called?
Office hours.
Office hours.
Yeah.
Okay.
What did they come up with?
Did they have a just one of the general like, hey, we’ll look into it type responses or something?
Yeah, pretty much.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, I don’t know how much they’ve got their ear to the ground as far as what’s coming down the line.
But, yeah, this would be fantastic.
You know, you get these, you know, I’ve said it before, we have garbage skills in the skill store.
And not all of them are.
And so just because you might have had, you leave a bad review, well, maybe you didn’t use the skill effectively.
Or if maybe you didn’t leave constructive criticism, you just were bad mouthing it.
Well, hey, what can I do better to help make that a five star skill?
You know, there’s no back and forth like that.
Exactly.
That should happen.
I mean, the Google Play Store allows for that.
Every other review, you know, eBay, everything has this functionality.
And it’s about time that they catch up, in my opinion.
Developers should be notified in case of new store reviews.
I like that idea.
Here he’s talking about the bringing other features to Germany, other locales, you know.
This one’s kind of niche, but I understand it.
Out of the box Zoom call support on show devices.
On all show devices.
Yeah, on all Echo show devices.
Only on the 8 and 10, I believe.
Yeah, the larger screen sizes.
Yep.
Yep.
The Ask CLI stuff, we’ll kind of skip that for a second.
Keep skill session alive during audio stream playback.
That ties into that new skill session.
Please, please, please let us configure the text at the bottom of the Alexa audio player interface.
Never used it.
Yeah, I haven’t either.
I’m not sure.
Analytics, custom reports.
100% on that one.
Yeah, I love custom reports.
All about having extra data to play with and review.
So again, analytics, really breaking it down more.
I like that.
Access to CloudWatch feels so slow all the time.
I know I’ve experienced some slowness.
I don’t want to say it’s all the time.
Yeah.
But again, it falls into that thing of just, yeah, if it can be better, I’d like it to be better.
More consistent, that kind of thing.
Yeah.
I don’t think I’ve actually experienced it myself.
I know that it’s not technically slow.
If you have a lot of people using your skill at one point in time, that it can be bogged down, I guess.
More logs, more data.
Yeah, exactly.
But I wouldn’t say that it’s technically slow.
So I wonder if this is more of a Germany thing.
That’s possible.
That’s definitely possible.
Sure.
Here we go.
There’s a few more that I just want to touch real quick.
More slash customizable wake words.
This doesn’t bother me at all.
There are others, you know, computer, Echo, Alexa, the others that are out there.
Sure, I guess.
The thing with customizable, that will never happen.
No, customizable, no.
I wouldn’t want to program the device to any name.
And that would just be a lot of work.
Yeah.
So with customizable, I see two things right off the bat.
One, you mentioned already, the name thing, like Kevin, open up, whatever.
That kind of thing, right?
I see that.
The other thing is, I remember, oh, man, this was probably back in 2020, that I believe it was Jeff Blankenberg was talking about why the A word was chosen as a wake word.
And it’s because of that, like, staccato part of Alexa.
So you have the uh, lex, uh, is like it’s very distinctive in how it gets out of there.
So even things like computer, you really push that kuh sound, and then you have your syllable breakdown after that.
So it’s, you can’t have a word like the, you know, be a wake word, right?
There’s just, it’s too generic.
It doesn’t have enough voice signature to it.
Exactly, exactly.
So, yeah.
To train the, uh, it would, you would have to actually train, like, you would have to like download the entire cloud server.
Yeah, to another special server to be able to do that and then train it for that word.
Yeah, it would be, it would just be too much.
Yeah.
Um, kiosk mode for Alexa devices, only one skill per device.
This would be useful when you want to place an Alexa device in a showroom or museum to offer information about a specific item.
I can see that, you know, it’s niche.
But you kind of see this in stores, like right now, if you go into your local Walmart, Costco, whatever, you’ll see like a display iPad and it’s got like, it runs through an app.
Yeah.
You know, it’s very locked down and what have you.
So I could see that.
It’s a neat thought.
And I’m glad that Frank is, is not just thinking about consumers even, but he’s really thinking outside the box, incorporating all types of avenues.
Possibilities.
Possibilities.
Perfect.
Yeah.
Getting towards the end here.
Allow, this one I do like, and I would love to have this happen, is allow custom skills to implement model interfaces.
And so the example he has here is custom weather skills could replace the inbuilt weather functionality.
Oh yeah.
I like that.
I really do.
So if I said, let’s say I’m using celestial white noise is, is, I’ll never forget this because I use, I say it like almost every night for my kids to fall asleep.
It’s just a white noise generator thing it’ll play for like two hours or whatever, just to get them to sleep, whatever.
If I would just say, play white noise, just like that.
Because I said it, that my celestial white noise skill, that’d be perfect.
Same thing with weather, right?
The built-in weather functionality is good, but like big sky.
Is it big sky?
Yeah.
I think it’s big sky.
I was thinking of dark sky, but big sky.
It gives me like the pollen counts and UV index, all the stuff that I look outside from my window and think, yeah, I’m not going out.
But if I could just say, what’s the weather, and then it would give me the big sky breakdown instead of saying, hey, open big sky, what’s the weather, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I like that a lot.
Let’s jump down to, again, he’s thinking outside the box here, not just on Echo devices, but on a Fire TV.
Let each key of a Fire TV remote trigger some type of or some kind of APL user event, which I can then handle within a skill.
Which I believe you actually can do, but it’s a lot more programming on.
It’s a lot of work, yeah.
I mean, I’m pretty sure you can do this.
You have to really nail it down from a code standpoint.
Introduce some more ways to access skill functionality without using an invocation name.
So what would you take that one to mean?
Introduce some more ways to access skill functionality without using an invocation name.
Which you should be able to do on a lot of skills that have, once again, blanking on the word.
I will get it for you as fast as my…
It’s called…
It’s called…
Yeah, I know.
It’s right on the tip of my tongue.
Name-free interactions.
Yes, yes.
Basic name.
Yeah, I mean, if they want to introduce more ways to improve upon it, I’ll take them.
More tools in the tool belt are always a good thing.
The last one that I want to bring up in this one, I actually had on my list as well.
Because I used to check this page all the time, right?
I’m one of those people that whenever I’m just on my phone board or whatever,
and I go into the Play Store, the App Store, and I just check for updates.
I just do, right?
And then I’ll see, like, oh, give me a good app.
Oh, how about…
I can’t even think now.
I’m going to pull out my phone and find an app.
I’m going to say Facebook.
That’s terrible.
So I find Facebook, right?
And I’m like, Facebook had an update.
And typically, their updates always say, like, bug fixes and improvements, right?
But some…
Oh, here’s a good one.
Pocket Cast.
It’s a podcast player.
They always have, like, a funny blurb about what they updated.
You know, like, used pixie dust and crushed bugs or whatever.
Okay?
So where I’m going with this, because I always have a point with my rambling,
is there used to be a page that was updated, and it was put out by Amazon,
Alexa, all that, that would show you the features that were out there,
and then, like, what date they came out, what the, I guess,
feature or improvement was or what have you.
It would give, like, a summary.
It would tell you…
I’m pretty sure it would tell you where they were located, too.
Like, if it was U.S. only or different regions type of thing,
like, it would use those, like, codes or whatever,
like IN for India and all that.
Actually, I’m just going to click this link, too, so I’m not rambling.
But this used to be updated all the time.
Here we go.
So if you could click that link, Will, so that our viewers could see as well.
It brings up this little table, and you can see it has, like,
the date and the name of it, a summary, the locale.
Yep.
I used to check this all the time, right?
Like, I was like, oh, that’s cool.
We get this new thing.
Oh, that’s neat.
Okay.
And it was just nice to see that improvements were there,
things were being actively worked on,
and you could, like, Alexa hunches, 9-24-2020, you know.
That was cool.
And that’s kind of what I wanted to jump into next, right?
This hasn’t been updated since 7-28-2021, last Alexa Live.
And with all of those beta features that were announced,
all of those things that got us really excited coming out of Alexa Live,
this is where you need to put them, you know.
This is where you need to show updates to it.
Even if there’s still beta, right, you could still just throw them here
and put the doc link to it.
It just would be nice.
So, Frank, I said this a lot, Frank, which means a lot,
but I agree 100% on this last point.
So, well done, Frank.
Let’s give you a quick round of applause there, right?
Okay.
And we’ll give you a little more publicity here.
We’re going to jump into your LinkedIn profile.
Before we do that, I just wanted to jump back to the Web API for Games.
There’s a couple of libraries or whatever they’re called for JavaScript
that I posted in the chat that 3GS and Babylon are both –
yeah, they’re called libraries –
to 3D libraries that people can use to make games for Alexa.
Okay.
Okay, perfect.
Utilizing the Web API.
But anyways, yes, let’s jump into –
We’ll look at his portfolio here.
Portfolio?
Yep.
So, actually, yeah.
I do not speak German.
Did Translate pop up?
Right there.
Sometimes Translate will pop up for me.
Sometimes it doesn’t.
All right, so these are his skills and Google Actions.
This is my dashboard that I was talking about.
It is a skill, but it also can stay up on your screen
as long as you have it until you tell it to stop.
And it will have different things on the screen like news,
some media, a slideshow.
It’s really neat.
For those who have bigger devices, I definitely recommend it.
It’s a very unique skill.
Yeah, yeah.
It looks like it has some good functionality.
Different things that you can do.
And he also made one for 15, which you can go vertically,
which is neat.
Right, right.
Yeah, nice to have that portrait landscape difference option there.
Yep.
So the next one he had was actually a Google Action
and an Alexa skill.
So he’s branched out.
Yep.
I don’t think I’ve played this.
I haven’t, no.
I can’t say it’s one that I’ve come across.
And he has links for all these skill store links.
He has an Alexa skill called Trek Base.
It’s a Wikipedia fun Star Trek skill.
And I love that he was very unique with this skill name
instead of calling it Star Trek.
Official Star Trek, yeah.
Right.
I like that.
But you just can get information on Star Trek.
If you’re a techie.
A Treckie.
Treckie.
Treckie, yeah.
A techie Treckie.
You know, you like your tech and you like your Trek.
Here’s another one.
Cinnamon.
Cinnamon.
Cinema space.
I can’t speak.
Video and streaming and media, which I believe.
Yeah, Frank is actually the one who gave me this video streams that are all free.
And I utilize one in space marauders.
Nice.
And that’s where all this came from.
Perfect.
So he has all the skills in all the different locales.
Another one, a universal lexicon or universal explainer.
Right, right.
I guess this is kind of like a Wikipedia type of thing.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Hence the wanting the longer search query.
That makes more sense now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Toolbox was a utility developer skill.
Makes the daily work of an Alexa skill easier.
I might have to look at that.
You know, there’s an English version available.
So that would be right up my alley.
I’d like to kind of see what what’s in there a little bit.
Cool.
Yeah, that is neat.
Yeah.
But yeah, you can tell he has kind of a space, you know, astronomy.
Right.
This is the one that I have playing NASA’s stream.
So that’s that’s neat.
Showtime.
It’s a special version of my media library.
Terms of tips and search function for access to broadcast on topics of stage live concerts and theater.
Okay.
Germany.
That’s kind of nice.
You know, you can find a show or whatever.
It’ll give you some info about it.
Yeah.
Power booster looks like it’s kind of a meditation recharge app or skill type of type of thing.
You know, music.
Walk you through a little quick meditation thing.
Rose time.
Kind of probably it looks like it pulls up videos or shows about heartache, you know, drama shows like our housewife show.
Timespace.
A lot of these related skills.
It looks like to finding specific genres of different things.
A video and streaming nature time.
Grandma’s story.
Nice.
Party.
Here’s a game party.
Yeah.
This was a contribution to the Amazon Alexa hackathon at voice 2020.
Nice.
Well done.
I will have to check that out actually.
Yeah, I’ll definitely put that on my list.
Garden party.
You help.
Oh, yeah.
That’s the one that I got.
I think.
Or was that in 2019?
Was it 2020?
2020 sounds right.
I don’t know.
I think 2020 sounds right.
But I see that the hero is Frank the frog.
Nice.
Nice.
But yeah, really good portfolio.
You know, it’s well rounded between.
It goes on and on.
I can’t tell how much more.
Who is it?
Another developer tutorial.
Yeah.
So if you actually switch gears into the other link that I sent you,
Will.
It’s the Amazon.
D site.
I shortened it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So if you accept those or whatever, and you can just scroll through.
I believe just from the little bit of research I did on Frank,
not research on Frank, that came out wrong.
But I believe maybe his company or what have you.
Because it all falls under like applique.
That’s probably the German word for application.
Maybe.
Applicate.
There it is.
Applicate.
All of these apps that we find or these skills that we find all fall under
that developer name there.
So quite a few here.
And you can see they have reviews.
Some have more than others, but he’s sitting at about three,
three and a half stars for a lot of his reviews.
So well done.
You know, he’s not making the garbage skills.
Nope.
Well done on that.
That gets a high five from me.
But that developer, yeah.
Developer tutorial zero to hero.
You know, that’s kind of where I started looking on YouTube for these things.
And it just pops it right up on your show device.
So pretty cool.
APL doctor, these types of things.
So Frank, well done.
You’ve, you’ve earned the, you get a bean from us for sure.
And the fact that, you know, you’ve, you’ve given back to the community.
You’re super engaged in, in voice technology.
There you go.
Well, nice, nice overlay there.
That’s perfect.
You know, you, you, you’ve given back to, you know,
He’s active in the Alexa Slack channel for developers.
So well done.
Well done.
Well, well done, Frank.
Yeah, definitely.
I always enjoy his, all his great comments and help for many different things.
So thank you for all you do, Frank and keep it up.
Yeah, absolutely.“
